1. notleia says:

    And I’m over here wondering what the end goal of this separatism is, as opposed to what it seems to actually be doing. Is it purity, or is it stagnation?

    • Christians do understand that if they love Jesus, they will be in some way separate from the world. They will live distinct lives and often subvert culture.

      Biblical believers only disagree on how to do that.

      There is not only one way to be separate from the world. As if it’s as simple as saying “just avoid a slippery slope” or “you wouldn’t eat cookies made with only 5 percent dog poop” or even “look at what The World does, then do the opposite.”

      The Biblical Christian’s whole view of life purpose must change from inside-out.

      • Julie D says:

        The 5% dog doo illustration drives me bonkers every time.  It’s not that simple. Sometimes it’s more like choosing between the two goblets in the Princess Bride–there’s no obvious clue to which is poisoned
        *spoilers*
        They both are.

        • bainespal says:

          Beautiful illustration! All our options are poisoned, but we have to drink of something anyways eventually, or there would be no point to living at all.

        • Purveyors of the “dog doo illustration” should quit getting their morals from outside the Bible, and instead read Jesus’s explicit rebuttal of this notion:

          And [Jesus] called the people to him again and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.” And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”

          Mark 7:14-23

          Of course, this doesn’t mean that for all people, hey, it’s all good, and don’t worry about things corrupting you. As with the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus actually reminds us that God’s standard is infinitely stricter than we could ever imagine with all our petty rules. If we could keep out defilement simply by not consuming certain things, that’s still challenging, but not impossible. But if the source of the “dog doo” is actually our own hearts, it’s hopeless!

          … Hopeless, that is, save for the One who changes filthy hearts of stone into clean hearts of flesh, thanks to His life, death, and resurrection.

What say you?